“Time for an immediate sit-down of leadership of AOG and WP-Org, and final flush of that nonsense. Then let’s get on with being the great AOG and the great WP-Org we all expect! ”

Most have moved on and gotten over the old misunderstanding. The two organizations do sit down and talk and work together where we can. There is some old baggage that crops up from time to time like this old myth that simply needs to be addressed as they come up.

We publish things like this because one recurring issue has long been less than perfect communications. Most folks involved thought the issue was resolved and moved past but clearly some never heard the resolution. So we asked WPAOG to work internally to make that happen there and we published this later to further get the word out to places where it may have spread. Open communications.

There is overlap between membership at WPAOG and WP-ORG but we don’t see everything that goes on internally in either side anymore than WPAOG/WP-ORG and classes and societies we both support see inside each others internal actions. Misunderstandings are going to happen and you deal with them when they do.

As a former WP-ORG Advisor and 13 year ‘55 Moderator (8 Nets), for 13 years I have been watching both WP-ORG and WPAOG leadership grow quite comfortable keeping the 2 organizations at each other’s throats. This relationship is not right and I believe we can do better. The problem is not easy to solve since the leadership of both organizations have always believed they are the “Good Guys” and await the “Bad Guys” to come to their “senses” and yield. In 13 years, this never happened, and never will.

The Data Theft Allegation event was only one of many…many….many events which have resulted in the current situation. What is needed, if we really want to solve the problem, is that both organizations agree to honestly seek resolution and participate in the tough give and take it will take to put these 13 years behind us.

Salisbury’62, Lyman’58, Dick Puckett ’64 have volunteered to give another try…..I also volunteer.">

You volunteer to do what, arbitrate?

Alan Salisbury is heading up a task force on the AOG side to identify areas of overlap between the two organizations where collaboration may be possible. Mike Lyman currently serves as an advisor to WP-ORG and he is a “techie” uniquely qualified to work with Alan.

As you say, you too were on the WP-ORG advisor board and therefore were a participant in the organization’s events, not a spectator. There are areas where the two organizations may collaborate and others where collaboration is impossible. With Mike and Alan working closely together common ground can be identified.

The last thing either organization needs is a measure of back yard arbitration where everyone save the abitrators walks away a loser.

~ Dempsey

As a former WP-ORG Advisor and 13 year ‘55 Moderator (8 Nets), for 13 years I have been watching both WP-ORG and WPAOG leadership grow quite comfortable keeping the 2 organizations at each other’s throats. This relationship is not right and I believe we can do better. The problem is not easy to solve since the leadership of both organizations have always believed they are the “Good Guys” and await the “Bad Guys” to come to their “senses” and yield. In 13 years, this never happened, and never will.

The Data Theft Allegation event was only one of many…many….many events which have resulted in the current situation. What is needed, if we really want to solve the problem, is that both organizations agree to honestly seek resolution and participate in the tough give and take it will take to put these 13 years behind us.

Salisbury’62, Lyman’58, Dick Puckett ’64 have volunteered to give another try…..I also volunteer.

Welter’55

Time for an immediate sit-down of leadership of AOG and WP-Org, and final flush of that nonsense. Then let’s get on with being the great AOG and the great WP-Org we all expect!

We have met the enemy, and they are us!